Vincent Bach Periods
  Mouthpieces Start-up Manufacturer Incorporated Trumpet Maker Bronx Period 1 Bronx Period 2
Years 1916-1918 1918-1919 1919-1922 1922-1924 1924-1928 1928-1933 1933-1945
Location   11 E.14th NYNY 204 E85th NYNY 237 E41st NYNY 237 E41st NYNY 621 E216th Bronx, NY 621 E216th Bronx, NY
       
        Bach #9 courtesy of Roy Hempley 1928 NY 6 courtesy of Dillon Music 1930 NY 7 courtesy of Dillon Music 1945 courtesy of Dillon Music
1st serial       N/A 2 apx. 900 apx. 2000
Wrap       2-over,2-under 2-over,2-under 2-over,2-under Became taller (valves)
Slide shape       Besson D radius Besson D radius Besson D radius Besson D radius
Receiver       unclear unclear Long Long, mid post-war
Valves       Blessing/own Blessing/own Types A-E1 E2, some mixed.
Valve casings       Blessing/own Blessing/own 2-piece 2-piece
Body wall       unclear unclear unclear unclear
L bore wall       unclear unclear unclear unclear
Lightweight opt?       unclear unclear Yes Yes
Reversed opt.?       No No No No
Bell std. stock       unclear variable 0.018"-0.023" 0.018"-0.023"
Bell light stock       unclear unclear 0.016"-0.018" 0.016"-0.018"
Bell ultra light       unclear unclear 0.014"-0.017" None indicated
Bell heavy stock       unclear unclear unclear None indicated
French opt?       Goal??? Yes Yes None indicated
Bell fabrication       1pc, hammer/spin 1pc, hammer/spin 1pc, hammer/spin 1pc, hammer/spin
Dominant bells       purchased?? T,4,7 6,7,10 7,7-10 (25), 38
Rim bead wire       unclear variable variable / brass wire brass wire
Tuning braces       1 1 1 1
Bb/A option       Yes Yes doubtful None indicated
Pull for A=440       unclear unclear 1/2"-3/4" 1/2"
  Post-war Early Mt. Vernon Mid-Mt.Vernon Selmer Mt.Vernon Early Elkhart Elkhart Modern Elkhart
Years 1945-1953 1953-1956 1956-1963 1963-1964 1965-1974 1975-ca. 2000 Present
Location
621 E216th Bronx, NY
50 S Macquesten, MV, NY
50 S Macquesten, MV, NY
50 S Macquesten, MV, NY
Main St., Elkhart, IN
600 Industrial, Elkhart
600 Industrial, Elkhart
               
  1950 L-25 courtesy of Dillon Music 1953 37 courtesy of Dillon Music 1962 ML43 1963 180-37 1970 43 courtesy of Dillon Music 1994 72 courtesy of Dillon Music 2009 MLV72G
1st serial 6000/6500 12615 apx. 16000 apx. 25000 apx. 30000 apx. 100-110,000 apx. 525,000
Wrap Taller still same Reached final height same same same same
Slide shape flatter D flatter D squarish with flat crook squarish with flat crook squarish with flat crook squarish with flat crook squarish with flat crook
Receiver mid mid short short short short became longer 2011
Valves E2, some mixed E2 E2 E2 E2 E2 E2
Valve casings 2-piece 2-piece 2-piece 2-piece 2-piece 1-piece 1-piece
Body wall mix, mostly 0.025" 0.025" 0.025" 0.025" 0.025" 0.025" 0.025"
L bore wall 0.023"? 0.023" 0.023" 0.023" 0.023" 0.023" 0.023"
Lightweight opt? None indicated None indicated None indicated No Yes Yes Yes
Reversed opt.? No No No No unclear Yes Yes
Bell std. stock 0.020" 0.020" 0.020" 0.020" 0.025" 0.025" 0.025"
Bell light stock 0.016"-0.018" 0.016"-0.018" 0.016"-0.018" 0.016"-0.018" 0.020" 0.020" 0.020"
Bell ultra light None indicated None indicated None indicated None indicated None indicated N/A N/A
Bell heavy stock None indicated None indicated None indicated None indicated unclear if 0.030" 0.030" 0.030"
French opt? None indicated Yes - Besson alloy copy Yes - Besson alloy copy None indicated None indicated unclear "Chicago"
Bell fabrication 1pc, hammer/spin 1pc, hammer/spin 1pc, hammer/spin 1pc, hammer/spin 1pc, hammer/spin 1pc, hammer/spin hydroform/spin
Dominant bells 25, 37, 38, (42&43) 25, 37, 43 25, 37, 43 (65) 37, 43 (72) 25, 37, 43, 72 25, 37, 43, 72 1b, 25, 37, 43, 72
Rim bead wire brass wire brass wire brass wire brass wire steel wire steel early then brass brass wire
Tuning braces transition to 2 2 2 2 2 2 2
Bb/A option None indicated None indicated None indicated None indicated None indicated None indicated None indicated
Pull for A=440 1/2" 1/2" 1" 1/2" 1/2" 1/2" 1/2"